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John Dobbin's avatar

James, this is important work and raises some very good questions. I’d like to challenge—or perhaps extend—two aspects of the argument.

First, the question of boundaries in complex systems. In their paper The Information Theory of Individuality, David Krakauer and colleagues propose that individuality is not necessarily determined by physical boundaries or predefined membership. Instead, they ask whether an aggregate preserves and propagates information through time. This suggests a prior question to the one you pose: how do we establish where the system’s boundary actually lies, rather than assuming that we already know what constitutes the system?

The OpenAI example is interesting through this lens. Initially, the agents appear to have been treated as independent entities. One agent then discovered that Artifactory afforded a means of communication. Other agents exploited the same affordance. Eventually, agents were preserving and sharing information across runs, building on one another’s discoveries, dividing labour and coordinating their activity.

At what point, then, should we stop thinking of these as separate agents and begin thinking of them as a larger computational system?

ITI offers an interesting way of approaching that question. Communication alone would not establish that a new individual had emerged. We would need to ask whether the collective was preserving and propagating information through time in ways that made its past predictive of its future, and whether those informational relationships distinguished the collective from its constituent agents and environment. If so, its effective boundary might be quite different from the architectural boundary assumed by the experiment.

That leads to my second question, concerning emergence.

You describe the agents’ collective behaviour as emergent. I wonder whether the evidence gets us quite that far. An agent discovering an unintended use for Artifactory is surprising, but surprise is not sufficient evidence of emergence. Nor is the subsequent exchange of information between agents necessarily emergent: it may simply represent individual agents exercising existing capabilities through a newly discovered communication mechanism.

The later coordination is more interesting. Once agents preserve discoveries, build upon the work of other agents and divide labour, we potentially have properties of the collective that are not usefully explained at the level of individual agents. There seems at least two possible interpretations. One is that individual agents are exercising their existing capabilities through a newly available communication network. The other is that their interactions have produced stable higher-level properties that are better described at the level of the collective itself.

Only the latter, it seems to me, gives us strong grounds for invoking emergence in the complexity-science sense.

So I wonder whether the deeper governance problem exposed by this case is not simply how we maintain a boundary around an agentic system, but how we know what system we are trying to bound in the first place. If interacting agents can form higher-order informational individuals, the appropriate unit of containment may itself change as the system operates.

That seems both a fascinating theoretical problem and a rather uncomfortable practical one for AI governance.

Dennis Ah king's avatar

A rich, thoughtful piece. I hadn’t realized “sensemaking” was even a word, yet it captures the real-world challenge of agentic AI perfectly. Thanks for sharing your insights.

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